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#12704 - 12/09/11 01:21 PM Re: Spinnaker pole ring car track [Re: Russ Atkinson]
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My concern is that this may set a new precedent--find a boat with equipment you like and you can change your boat to match it.

For example, like the shorter pole track, at some point the teak and holly sole became standard and later boats like Wildcat and Bebop have wood battens on the interior of the hull. Since early boats don't have either is it now OK to to tear them out to save weight? This is not a hypothetical, two boats in our fleet actually did this.

Hull #545 was among the last few J/30 produced. It was delivered without halyard winches or deck organizers. Several other class members noticed and removed these items without contacting the measurer.

I appreciate as here and on the other post when people do the right thing and contact the measurer for guidance. It shouldn't be easier to ask for forgiveness than get permission.

J/Boats made numerous specification changes during the eight year production run. Some are obvious, others not so much. Boats are alike but not identical. J/30 Class Rule 1.3 states, "No alternatives or modifications are permitted unless explicitly stated in these rules or on the official plans or building specifications." It's up to the measurer to interpret the rules and leave it to the BOG to change them where necessary.

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#12705 - 12/09/11 02:49 PM Re: Spinnaker pole ring car track [Re: Bob Rutsch]
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Registered: 09/19/00
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Loc: Rockwood, MI, USA
I have wooden battens in my hull? Exactly where are those things and how do I get them out?

I was thinking about changing back to the 3/4" prop shaft too?

And I still haven't figured out how to weigh the stove

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#12706 - 12/09/11 05:34 PM Re: Spinnaker pole ring car track [Re: Russ Atkinson]
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What I refer to is the wood strips attached to the hull in the bow above the V-berth as battens. Probably only need a screw driver and a pry bar.

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#12707 - 12/09/11 07:08 PM Re: Spinnaker pole ring car track [Re: Russ Atkinson]
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Also found in the main cabin, between the cabinets, and above the V berths as well (at least on hull #205). They are light pine. Took some of mine out in order to replace them.
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#12710 - 12/10/11 07:32 AM Re: Spinnaker pole ring car track [Re: Russ Atkinson]
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Originally Posted By: Russ Atkinson
Thanks Charlie.
I'm not taking the bait here. Yes or No was all I was looking for, I'll take Charlie's response as a YES. From all the rancor, you'd think I was asking to change the head sail material or something.

While we're at it, can we discuss the stove...
Mine came with the boat, never been off - how do I weigh it? Does it have to weigh 12 lbs with or without alcohol in the canisters? smile

Se Ya'll in N'Orleans


Russ - glad to see that you'll be joining the fun in N'Orleans!

General comment for all posting: Please discuss each item in its own thread (e.g. spin pole ring, stove, wooden battens, etc.) and keep the discussion related to a single topic. This makes research and future retrieval of information much easier for those looking.


Edited by Rhapsody #348 (12/10/11 07:48 AM)
Edit Reason: Developed alternate thread to discuss unrelated topics
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