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Deck Square Footage? #13416
04/17/12 09:16 AM
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I'm planning to paint #255's deck with Kiwigrip, which covers 80 sq.ft. per gallon. Anyone know the area of non-skid?
Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Deck Square Footage? [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13417
04/17/12 09:44 AM
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Worst case assuming a rectangle is 30' x 11.5' = 345 sqft
Assume 50% coverage due to boat shape and areas not covered by non-skid = 172.5 sqft

1 Gallon @ 80 sqft isn't enough
2 gallons at 160 sqft is almost enough.....

I'd say 2 gallons should do the trick since companionway, mast area and along the toe rails does not get non-skid.

Are you sanding the original pattern smooth before application? I'd be interested to see how this turns out.

Re: Deck Square Footage? [Re: Rhapsody #348] #13418
04/17/12 11:37 AM
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how does that compare $$$ with 3 qts of Interdeck say at $40 each?

take out the hatches and the 2 gals probably will make do.

What color are you thinking about?

looks like we may have a hot summer up north

Re: Deck Square Footage? [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13419
04/17/12 11:49 AM
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Hi Bill & Vic,
Thanks for your input.
The Kiwi grip is $140 gallon. and the Kiwigrip guys in CA recommend 1 gal. + 2 qt. @ $42.50 each; which is $225.
Practical Sailor gave the Kg a good write up and, from the photos it seems to be a very attractive surface.
I am going to use the light grey, which if the swatches and photos can be trusted, is a little lighter that the original J/Boat grey.

shades of gray for J30 deck [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13421
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roger, roger ... the GRAY is pretty misleading. I did a comparison before I decided the final deck color of my sailing life. Now 4 boats into this color and like it both up north and down here 1500 miles south.

If you are doing mixed can sizes you now can fine tune your gray...
say 1 gal gray, 2 qt white ... or 1 gal white, 1 qt white, 1 qt gray.

It is really surprising on how gray most of the gray deck coatings dry out to. Interdeck gray is probably OK in the Artic.

looking at grays for the J30 deck here<

Re: shades of gray for J30 deck [Re: Cap'n Vic] #13422
04/17/12 01:15 PM
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Rhapsody deck is the off-white, cream color. Unscientific tests reveal this doesn't get as hot in the sun as the gray deck. Test evidence is the bottom of my bare feet when walking on both type decks.

Re: shades of gray for J30 deck [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13423
04/17/12 02:15 PM
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I'm a little leery of custom mixing a color in case I'm short by a quart or 2, but in looking at the swatches, the grey does seem on the dark side.
I like the cream color and it was under consideration, but I thought the grey might be easier to keep clean - actually, that it would not show the dirt so much.
Although monitors can differ, how does the cream swatch seem to compare to the paint on your deck?

http://www.pachena.com/KiwiGrip_Colors.asp

Re: shades of gray for J30 deck [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13429
04/17/12 06:03 PM
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Wait ... you should have as many of these free measuring devices as I have.

[Linked Image]

the middle one is used for penetrating epoxy ... 2:1 [but a little less in 85 degrees]

the big one is used for the interdeck paint: three shooters of white, one of gray.

but gray paint is not rocket science ... no more of a problem than epoxy.

What you don't want is a gray that under 90 degees is too hot.

Here also is Vee Jay gray done last weekend on a 1978 J24 we are working on for the kids this summer. Notice the starboard white filler panels on the bulkhead ... this is interdeck 3 parts white to 1 part of their standard gray and a good match for the deck color from 1978 just a shade lighter to further reduce the long hot summer day effect.

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Re: shades of gray for J30 deck [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13436
04/19/12 06:40 AM
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Atlantic Highlands, NJ
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Thanks for your input. I'm going to order 2 gallons of white and have my local hardware store tint it to a Benjamin Moore swatch TBD.

Re: Deck Square Footage? [Re: JeffSmithNJphoto] #13437
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I recored an area on Madcap's side decks last winter. I had a hardware store tint the white Kiwi Grip to my deck color and it turned out great. The cream color from Kiwi Grip was too far off my deck color.

Outside and washed it is a very good match. Ill do the rest of the deck someday, but for a patch it worked out great.

It is an excellent product and very easy to apply.

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