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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement
[Re: Rhapsody #348]
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08/13/12 12:22 PM
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Georges
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Vic, From what I saw, Paneltronics has a nice set of easily changeable set of labels. So I am not sure I would add the labeling as part of the standardization... Just a thought.
I have a three way switch that toggle between LED masthead sailing lights and deck + steaming light when running the engine - which will not fit the breakers as I understand them.
Even though I do not see myself replacing yet my panel, I appreciate the efforts to get to a better model. I definitely support the following requirements: - positive-on LED switch/breakers indication. - backlight indication of label. - easily customizable label. - 12 breakers sounds right to me - although I like my three way switches for lights :-) I would loved also to replace my current three way bilge switch with one integrated and backlighted... but that probably refers to the possibility to used both breaker and fuse in the panel... I did not see this yet offered and not sure how convenient it is. - Allow for breaker size to accept a couple of gauge 12 wire in the same socket (i/e for nice feeding of autopilots...) - standardize the meters...
William, I did not understand, even after reading the specs - what is the accuracy displayed of the digital ammeter - I would focus on the 100DC Amp - which is probably the only one that makes sense on the J/30... Does the right most digit display amps or 1/10 th of amps?
I noticed that the bluesea ammeter have a sleep mode with very low consumption (<0.15 watt ) ... I have no idea what triggers it. It also only need a circular hole not a rectangular one - which is easier to install... But I agree it is much more expansive than paneltronics one and the ease of installation is not relevant to a discussion about a J/30 standard...
Cheers,
-- Georges Foot Loose #467 - CPYC - Winthrop
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Re: Rhapsody Pics: DC Electrical Panel Replacement
[Re: Rhapsody #348]
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08/14/12 02:05 PM
08/14/12 02:05 PM
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Posts: 186 Barrington, RI
cstoddard
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I've done a fair amount of rewiring on Falcon over the years * installed a Blue Sea AC pannel over 10 years ago which handles two plugs, Hot Water heater and the Battery charger
* two years ago I was having issues with DC pannel and replaced it with a Blue Sea pannel P/n 8068 which comes with two meters and 10 breakers with room to add three more. I'm not worried about the circuit breaker rating as all the electronics are each fused as well All wiring is mostly 14 to 168 gauge. Current pannel cost at Jamestown Supply is $499.00
* I found that the primary harness in the boat was in great shape once you trimmed the ends back about 1-2 inches and would not replace it unless you had a short The major corrosion was at the crimp connectors and if you use the heat shink versions that will not reoccur (in our lifetimes)
* what I would do differently would be to install a single DC/AC pannel and put it on a hinge so that it would fold down This will probably require some wood working skills to build a frame that can handle the weight of the pannel
* so what do I have for DC circuits running lights, steaming light, deck light, masthead/anchor light, cabin lights, wind instruments, autopilot, GPS, Stereo, Inverter, assessory plug and VHF
I have also replaced the cabin lights with LED's expense but a much smaller drain
Charlie Stoddard Falcon #229
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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement
[Re: Cap'n Vic]
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08/15/12 01:50 PM
08/15/12 01:50 PM
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Posts: 12 Miami, Florida
PaneltronicsWill
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@Cap'n Vic - Based on the dimensions provided I would recommend Panel# 5201 which is 6.5" x 11" which is a standard panel punch size and keeps the cost considerably lower than a custom or special punch. The 5201 has 12 Branch breaker positions which can be wired and labeld however you prefer. The labels are conveniently changeable and we have a library of about 3000 to choose from. You also have the option of getting this panel with (Premier) or without (Deluxe) backlighting which is convenient when monitoring current drain. If there is an interest from multiple oweners I could even look into a custom combination panel which would include AC/DC, meters and anything else that might be needed.
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Re: Rhapsody Pics: DC Electrical Panel Replacement
[Re: Rhapsody #348]
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08/15/12 02:33 PM
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Posts: 12 Miami, Florida
PaneltronicsWill
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@Rhapsody Bill - Based on these dimensions I agree with your initial request ( 5203 ) or my initial suggestion ( 2206 ) both very good options and would fit just right. Within the links provided you are able to customize, add a hinge, select your labels, choose meter type etc.
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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement layout
[Re: Cap'n Vic]
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08/15/12 05:10 PM
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Posts: 12 Miami, Florida
PaneltronicsWill
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@Cap'n Vic - The requested layout is doable, also as mentioned previously you can label each position as you'd like and looking through our label library we have the following matches in addition to other options: RUNNING LIGHTS; P/N: L1627 STEAMING LIGHTS; P/N: L1824 SPREADER LIGHTS; P/N: L13737 OPEN; P/N: L2862 LIGHTS HEAD; P/N: L1169 CABIN LIGHTS; P/N: L393 VHF; P/N: L1981NAV INST; P/N: L1310 GPS; P/N: L902 OPEN; P/N: L2862 OPEN; P/N: L2862 AUTO HELM; P/N: L214
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Re: Rhapsody Pics: DC Electrical Panel Replacement
[Re: cstoddard]
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08/15/12 06:15 PM
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PaneltronicsWill
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@cstoddard - I'd be interested in putting together an AC/DC panel that includes all requirements in addition to a hinged frame so that it would fold down as mentioned. Note hinge, frame, enclosures and doors are just a few value added options we offer. If curious you can go to the following link and customize your panel. It is a Link to 5203 which is the colsest match to the BS8068 panel. Assuming you used analog meters for your panel we would be right under the Jamestown pricing you've specified.
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