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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14180
11/04/12 09:40 AM
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just as a reminder ... panel replacements have nothing to do with measurement for OD events?

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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14181
11/04/12 10:01 AM
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Vic - that is correct, as long as you meet the requirement of permanently installed navigation lights in working order under rule 6.4. You also need two batteries inferred by rule 5.13.1.

DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14192
11/06/12 12:40 AM
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Attached is a wiring diagram that will be included with the installation guidelines showing the DC connections near the batteries. This is where most of the wiring will change when the replacement DC panel is installed. The installation guidelines will provide information on the required wire sizes.

Click on the graphic to download a PDF file for printing.

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J30 DC Wiring near Batteries.pdf [70.9 KBytes] - (631 downloads)
J30 DC Wiring near Batteries.jpg [657.03 KBytes] - (19673 downloads)
Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14193
11/06/12 10:47 AM
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Thanks Bill. Your diagram is a big help!


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Initial Order: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14224
11/10/12 10:55 AM
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We are now ready to place the initial order for 3 panels. The attached specification revision 3 includes some updates for the J/30 logo, mounting screws, and adds a qualified supplier section. I've also attached an Excel file that allows selection of standard circuit breaker ratings and labels so the panel can be customized for each boat.

J/Boats has authorized Paneltronics to silk screen the J/30 logo on the panels.

I plan on placing my order early next week and have contacted the other two who indicated they wanted a panel. Those folks can post here if they desire.

Once Paneltronics delivers the initial production run, I will update the specification to include the final schematics, panel artwork, and any minor wording revisions to reflect the as-built configuration. This will then be added to the J/30 website files, and Paneltronics will be added to the Equipment Suppliers web page.

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Breaker_Configurator.xlsx [227.71 KBytes] - (856 downloads)
Re: Initial Order: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14229
11/11/12 08:37 PM
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Bill,
The amount of effort and detail applied to this DC panel, along with your restoration and maintenance documentation for Rhapsody is outstanding. Thank you for the detail and effort.

I will be purchasing the DC panel replacement for my J30, hull #351.

Jeff Moore
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Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14253
11/18/12 01:11 AM
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I've updated the wiring diagram for the area near the battery. It is saved in pdf format and an image file. The wiring shown is now complete on Rhapsody, except for the shunt used for the ammeter, and connections to the panel, since it hasn't arrived yet.

This will be included in the installation procedure I am writing.

Click on the image file to download the pdf document.
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Rhapsody-DC-Wiring.png [76.73 KBytes] - (9084 downloads)
Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14257
11/19/12 06:36 AM
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Apponaug Rhode Island
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Bill, following your process is going to be very helpful in doing this project. Are you planning on removing the existing plywood panel in its entirety and install a new removable panel that will allow easy access to wiring?

Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14258
11/19/12 08:07 AM
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Rhapsody #348 Offline OP
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Koos,

I am going to make a panel from 1/4" Starboard that will go over the plywood. This is because I mounted some other items on the plywood panel that prevent me from just expanding the cutout and mounting the replacement panel. If that was possible, it would be the preferred method. I made a mockup of the useable area yesterday and am doing a trial layout at home with the various items I have (DC Panel, 115VAC outlet, shorepower breaker, two 12V utility outlets, and battery charger). Once I'm ok with the layout, I'll cut the Starboard, take it to the boat and use a sawzall to cut where I need in the plywood.

Re: DC Electrical Panel Replacement [Re: Rhapsody #348] #14260
11/20/12 07:41 AM
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Apponaug Rhode Island
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Bill, will the starboard cover the entire wood panel? I am thinking of cutting away part of the shelf and extend the panel upwards and have vhf, gps, stereo, etc all flush mounted, the stuff tucked under the shelf as always annoyed me a bit,

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