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Board of Governors (BOG) Meeting
#152
08/17/04 12:38 AM
08/17/04 12:38 AM
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David Erwin
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J/30 ClassBoard of Governors (BOG) Meeting July 22nd @ Barrington, RI Attendees: Carl Sherter, John McArthur, Charlie Stoddard, Bernie Kucharski, Scott Tonguis, and David Erwin Minutes: Raise the annual J/30 Class dues to $50 in 2005. J/30 sailors can join or renew J/30 Class membership by accessing web page: http://www.j30.org/html/directory/membership.html for $25 through December 31st, 2004. The class with automatically send invoices to class membership in 2005. Carl Sherter and John McArthur will serve another to year term if elected by the class. The BOG team recommends the following proposed changes to keep the class "One Design" rules up-to-date while making the J/30s more competitive in the PHRF fleets. These changes maintain a goal to minimize expense of the owners. By making the #3 larger and changing the #2 to an optional sail, racers can purchase a sail just for PHRF racing without having to increase their total sail inventory. The carbon pole will keep the PHRF people happy, but we all know a good foredeck makes more different that the weight of the pole. #1 Genoa, Lift the restriction on sail cloth. Leave at 163% #3 Genoa, allow "Full Hoist" for luff length. Leave sail cloth unrestricted. #2 Genoa, make the current #2 an optional Sail. Leave the sail at 140% and leave the current sail cloth restriction. The #2 will be reviewed in about two years. Spinnaker Poles; allow Carbon Fiber poles. Allowing the removal of the Jib Tack Horns (cutting them off) and replacing the Tack Horns with a single shackle. Allowing "Tow-able" jib cars on the #1-2 tracks. With no restriction on the purchase. Removing the Class requirement of a harness for 50% of the crew in National events. The proposed change will be officially voted as official at a November BOG meeting. Please tell us what you think including additional proposed class changes. [This message has been edited by David Erwin (edited 08-17-2004).]
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Re: Board of Governors (BOG) Meeting
#157
08/18/04 03:28 PM
08/18/04 03:28 PM
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 493 Chicago, Il. USA
D. Bartley
Governor at Large
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Chicago, Il. USA
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Is there any particular need to change both the #1 and #3 in the same year? While I don't mind change particularly, it is expensive for us one-design guys to keep up.
While one can get towable cars rather inexpensively, I'be been told by Henry Mallard at Layline that for them to work reasonably under load, you do need the ball-bearing cars.
Dennis Bartley Planxty, s/n 23994 hull 205
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Re: Board of Governors (BOG) Meeting
#158
08/18/04 03:37 PM
08/18/04 03:37 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 678 Maryland, USA
Bob Rutsch
Governor at Large
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Maryland, USA
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I'll support an optional #2 in exchange for unrestricted material for those who want one, along with a date so I can plan my next purchase.
I also (reluctantly) favor lifting the material restrictions on the #1. Thermo-molded sails demand something stronger than Dacron/Pentex. But Jan 1, 2005 is too soon; a bunch of boats in the Annapolis Fleet purchased #1s for the 2004 NA's less than a year ago. Two seasons is the target so try 2006. A compromise might be to change the #1 material in time for the next NA's, say Oct 15, 2005. The New Orleans Fleet would likely be making purchases at that time, and it would help ensure conformance with the OD Rules among their primarily PHRF racers.
You could limit material to HMDPE (Spectra, Dyneema), Aramid (Kevlar, Twaron, Technora), plus already allowed Dacron and Pentex. I don't know where Vectran (liquid crystal polymer) would fall, but North is already pushing carbon sails and they are not going to go away.
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Re: Board of Governors (BOG) Meeting
#159
08/19/04 10:01 AM
08/19/04 10:01 AM
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Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 109 New York, NY
Ed Austin
Senior Member
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I am for all of the changes that have been proposed. But then again I have implemented most of them already. I have aramid and carbon genoas. I have a kevlar full hoist #3 (bought before the cloth restrictions were lifted). I have a carbon pole and adjustable ball bearing jib cars. I even have a flat 153 genoa we call a #2 but is really a heavy #1, a 1/2oz spinnaker and a technora cascading backstay. However, I have still been beaten by well sailed J-30's in the one design configuration and I bet the top of the fleet at the NA's this year still would. I maintain a class #1 from 1999 and class #3, vintage 1986. However, I do make sure my main and 3/4oz I use regularly are class legal. I have a tough time buying new class legal genaos and jibs for one or two regattas a year. I will spend money on currently class illegal improvements for my boat because I am racing against other boats with these improvements, and I believe (maybe mistakenly) that these will help my boat perform better for most of the races I enter. As time and money have been tighter for me the last few years as my family is growing, I have had to cut back some in my racing time and budget. Some of the first things that seem to go, are the one design events. I usually have to travel to these events and loading and unloading the one design equipment takes some time and is a pain in the butt. Not to mention possible haul/trailer/launch or just a long delivery. For the PHRF events, I can usually race a decent local regatta, show up at my mooring in the morning, pump the bilge, clean the bottom and go racing. In many places there are active one design fleets and I can see why there is reluctance for many of these changes. But, there are many boats on the fringe of one design areas that are stuck mostly sailing PHRF. These are the boats that will benefit the most from these changes. I also believe that this will benefit the class with increased participation at the big events by boats from this group.
Ed Austin Chinook
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