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Sorting out gimbaled stove #18490
06/04/20 09:40 PM
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I just bought a J/30 up here in Alaska. It looks a previous owner made some modifications to the galley including removing the original stove. I can only imagine that it was gimbaled, for example. The previous owner I bought the boat from had a brand-new Dometic alcohol stove that fits in the covered cavity next to the sink (see photos).

Does anyone have an idea what the original setup was? I see now gimbal brackets in this galley. Anyone know how to proceed? How have you handled this? Maybe there is a gimbal kit that I can use for this alcohol stove?

Cheers,
-Patrick

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Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18491
06/05/20 10:14 AM
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Not sure what age is your boat. Does it sleep 6? If so here is a link to brochure from that era:

https://www.J/Boats.com/j30-sailing-performance

I just mounted an Origo two burner stove in place of the pressure stove that came stock. I don't use the gimbal feature.

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Rob Van Name] #18493
06/09/20 09:56 AM
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Here's a photo that might match the factory setup for your boat. That is an Origo 4000. Notice the gimbal function takes place in a frame, not directly on the stove.
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Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18572
08/31/20 01:55 PM
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That is similar to the factory set up, which was a pressure alcohol stove. I removed that stove and dropped in the cookmate version of that Origio 4000 stove. I just had to mount the gimbal weight directly the to bottom of the cookmate and cut the corner of the stove to allow the gimbal lock of the frame to work.

Patrick, without the gimbal frame, I think you will need to custom build something for that stove. Or try to find a gimbal frame from someone parting out another J/30 and then sell that stove and try to get a drop in Cookmate.

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: NaturalHigh] #18577
08/31/20 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NaturalHigh
That is similar to the factory set up, which was a pressure alcohol stove. I removed that stove and dropped in the cookmate version of that Origio 4000 stove. I just had to mount the gimbal weight directly the to bottom of the cookmate and cut the corner of the stove to allow the gimbal lock of the frame to work.

Patrick, without the gimbal frame, I think you will need to custom build something for that stove. Or try to find a gimbal frame from someone parting out another J/30 and then sell that stove and try to get a drop in Cookmate.


Do you have a link to a drop-in cook mate Origo? I can't find information on that anywhere.

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18580
09/01/20 12:09 PM
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Wow, it seems it was discontinued. Cookmate 4200, same as Origo 4100. So frustrating as it is the perfect stovetop for the older J30

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: NaturalHigh] #18766
05/03/21 01:19 PM
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I was finally able to find an Origo 4100 on eBay for $400, in good condition and complete with cutting board. There are a few of the electric/alcohol versions out there with what looks like the same form factor.

Originally Posted by NaturalHigh
Patrick, without the gimbal frame, I think you will need to custom build something for that stove. Or try to find a gimbal frame from someone parting out another J/30 and then sell that stove and try to get a drop in Cookmate.


It looks like I do need to sort out a gimbal frame. If anyone else has photos of the original gimbal frame that would be very helpful. Of course, if there is a way to get ahold of one that would be even better!

Originally Posted by Rob Van Name
Not sure what age is your boat. Does it sleep 6?


I never answered your question. It is a 1981 and does sleep 6. Looks like the same boat as in your link.

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18785
05/12/21 12:00 PM
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Good thing I was fiddling with this and taking a few photos over the winter

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This is from hull 410, 1982 - 6 berth

Best,
Blaine

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18787
05/12/21 02:23 PM
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Aha! That is really very helpful. Thank you. Now I know that the box installed in my cavity is not stock, and have a simpler gimbal concept than I was coming up with on my own.

I can fab something like this in lieu of finding one that someone parted out.

Re: Sorting out gimbaled stove [Re: Patrick Stinson] #18805
05/30/21 02:36 AM
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I went to fit the Origo 4100 I got on eBay and found that it fit right inside the trim without a gimbal. In went the screws to mount it to the trim. Very easy. Probably won't ever need a gimbal anyway.

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