These were the original Barient winches that came with my J/30 hull 405 that I bought New in 1986. The guts of these winches had been used only on season and were cleaned and put away in the boxes that came with the replacement self-tailers. The original barrels were given to a J/30 friend, and he gave me his barrels in exchange. They are great conditions. the cost is $500.00 for both plus shipping costs. I have photos of the winches. Yours truly Seth Shepard IV Dow Jones II I can be reached by email at sshepardiv@sbcglobal.net