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Asymmetrical
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08/18/08 10:02 PM
08/18/08 10:02 PM
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mango madness
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I feel like i do all the posting.
Anyone have tips and lessons learned from flying a code zero, or any asym. for that matter.
I'm seriously considering investing in one when I buy new sails shortly(sugar momma got promoted and now makes fat commission, hells yeah).
Tack line block placement, tack line routing to cockpit, to fabricate a bowsprit or not to, best asym type for close reaching, close calls, masthead halyard rigging/ doable or too much stress on original stick, upgrading standing rigging, more slamming me for modifying one design As usual, any and all correspondence is welcomed
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Re: Asymmetrical
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08/19/08 02:11 PM
08/19/08 02:11 PM
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Posts: 159 grand rapids, mi
311 Temptation
Western Great Lakes District Governor
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We have flown an old Melges 24 A-kite from the pole. It's a huge thrill and it powers the boat up like nothing else, in our experience. Since we arent rated for it we dont race with it. The downside is that it massively loads up the boat. This shows up in my twing line system. I am not sure the SWL of the blocks and lines is up to the job. They dont look like they would do the job for a long time. But it is so fast and ridiculously fun it's like having a new boat. We've enjoyed it from <5 kts to about 20 kts TWS. We have done it family style with just my wife & my kids & me. We do a douse jibe. I would like to be rated for it and race distance with it, which we don't do often. It might be cool to have a distance rating (using 'affordable' M24 A-sails & composite mains) and a OD buoy racing handicap. Oops, a can of worm just spilled I better go.
Dell Todd #311 Temptation Holland MI
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Re: Asymmetrical
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08/19/08 05:40 PM
08/19/08 05:40 PM
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Posts: 649 Marblehead, MA
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I had an old chute cut to an asym - not perfect but it was a $200 test. You really need a sprit to fly it. There is not really a good tack point that works well. Selden and Forte now has a removable sprit that looks pretty cool. I have thought about it. You could also just add an anchor roller and fly it from there but getting it out away from the boat would be better. http://www.seldenmast.com/download.cfm?download=7837&webnode_id=3014&filename=595-261-E.pdf http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|319697|103585|312078|855335&id=1017978 I think for any real advantage you would want to fabricate a masthead sheeve and fly it from there, the fractional spinnaker halyard with an asym is not far from just reaching with the 163 class genoa. I have thought about this a lot. I think the boat would be a PHRF smoker with a real Asym. David #397
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Re: Asymmetrical
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08/20/08 08:59 AM
08/20/08 08:59 AM
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Russ - so do you just crank down on the Foreguy to keep the pole from moving? What about lateral movement?
This sounds like a cool way to do it, just wondering how the tack load get distributed.
David #397
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Re: Asymmetrical
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08/20/08 12:49 PM
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So you are you using a seperate line for the tack? Or is the spinsheet(Guy) your tack?
David #397
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Re: Asymmetrical
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08/20/08 03:45 PM
08/20/08 03:45 PM
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Cool - something else to play with!
David #397
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