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Barber Hauler #3063
06/19/08 05:03 PM
06/19/08 05:03 PM
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Taras Offline OP
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I recently purchased a J30 and found what looks like two barber haulers as part of the rigging / equipment
Can someone on the list please send a link to a picture / diagram as to where this is installed.....I have no example to follow at my club
Is it used for the Genoa or the spinnaker?Thanks in advance

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Re: Barber Hauler #3064
06/19/08 06:21 PM
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Buffalo, NY
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are they a line about 6 feet long with a single block on the end? most likely twings for the spin usually set up from the stanchen base between the two cabin ports/windowsup to a cleat on or cam cleat on the coach roof-

Re: Barber Hauler #3065
06/19/08 09:30 PM
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Portsmouth, RI
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Re: Barber Hauler #3066
06/19/08 11:26 PM
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Thanks Bill
I thought it would be for the spinnaker as the block was small for the genoa load.
The picture (and your site ) has been of great help as there are no J30's in the neighbourhood and the former owner is in the hospital
I still have two other ongoing problems (you will see I am very green..former boat was a C&C24)
1) there is a fuel leak somewhere. When the boat arrived From Ct to Montreal by ground transport, there was 2" of pink oily liquid in the bilge....deisel fuel? (up here it is not pink) I cleaned it up but trace amounts continued to collect so I placed paper towels at various point to see what the path was.
First, the tank is full to max, guage read more than full and the fuel line was in the open position. The towels continue to be wet at the mouth of the 1" hose that comes from the sern of the bilge....mostly clear oily liquid ?/ also wet at the bottom-aft-interior corner (against the seette)very pink.
Could fuel have spilled out the overflow during the 85 degree heat wave during the transport? Collected under the tank and is now sloshing aft as the boat rolls through waves? I hope there is not a leak in the tank!
Where does that 1" diameter hose that ends at the aft of the bilge lead to? I did not find the other end. Is the clear liquid transmissionn fuild?
2) I cannot get the nav instuments to work. The batteries are connected and all the other electics (water pump, cabin lights, running lights) work,...but not the depth and speed. I have checked / replaced the fuses,checked the connections at the mast base, but still no luck

Thanks for any help you can offer
Wish me luck

Re: Barber Hauler #3067
06/19/08 11:46 PM
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Toronto, ON
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I have no ideas about the fuel situation (unless it is actually pink RV antifreeze from the block), but the hose draining into the back of the bilge is likely the ice box drain. It's known to leak.

Re: Barber Hauler #3068
06/20/08 07:12 AM
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Portsmouth, RI
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Taras - just read this thread heading out the door to Bermuda race. I'll post a reply on the other stuff when I get back next week. Here is a picture of the bilge drain. The ice box drain is the left hole and will drain water to the bilge.

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Re: Barber Hauler #3069
06/20/08 09:44 AM
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Posts: 127
Chicago, IL, US
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Was the boat located in a place that actually has a winter season?

I haven't heard of pink diesel fuel in boats, either. Pink and oily fluid sounds to me like it could be the antifreeze used to winterize a boat's water and waste systems. These are drained as best as one can in the fall, and pink antifreeze is then flushed down the head, as well as dumped in the water tank and pumped through the kitchen and head sinks. A leak in the water or waste system could be responsible for antifreeze getting into the bilge. I suggest inspecting the hoses and tanks. Also, it is entirely possible that the previous owner dumped antifreeze directly into the bilge. I've never heard of anyone doing that, but it is possible.

My fuel tank has four hoses. There is the deck fill. There is the main fuel line that connects to the primary fuel filter near the engine. There is a fuel return line running from the injectors back to the tank. Last, there is a vent hose. This runs from the tank to a vent located on the stbd side of the transom. I've had issues in the past where the fuel tank was too full, and pitching of the boat ended up pushing fuel out the vent line, making a mess on the transom. I don't know what you mean by fuel spilling out the overflow; if you're referring to the vent, then it should be connected by hose to a vent through the hull or transom. If there isn't a hose connected to the tank's vent fitting, then I'd strongly suggest fixing this.

These are old boats. I've found that the fuel hoses in mine were leaking. Engine vibration rubbed them against the fiberglass hole where they pass into the engine compartment, causing them to chafe and leak. I replaced them, and lined the hole through the fiberglass with rubber hose to make an improvised gasket. This chafed through the battery cables on the port side as well.

Good luck!

Ryan
Tesara, #337


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Re: Barber Hauler #3070
09/02/08 06:08 PM
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Posts: 27
Amelia Island, FL, USA
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Amelia Island, FL, USA
Taras

Call Layline.com and ask for Henry Mallard.

He's helped me rig and re rig my boat over the years! He has one in the Carolinas and knows of many other owners. He's just as knowledgeable as the forum!

Graeme
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