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Rudder #3612
01/03/02 05:12 PM
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anyone know what a J30 rudder should weigh? Mine is 1000 pounds for some reason.
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Re: Rudder #3613
01/03/02 06:19 PM
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I believe that if you did deep enough into the older messages in this forum that you'll find this very subject has been covered in the recent past.

Happy Hunting....

Re: Rudder #3614
01/04/02 02:42 PM
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Well, 1000 lbs. is a bit excessive. I happen to have mine in the basement, so I just went down and weighed it with a reasonably accurate digital scale. Several weighings all produced 72 lbs. That included hardware with pintles. No modification to the rudder has ever been done.


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Re: Rudder #3615
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Dennis, you indicated that the hardware was attached to the rudder (pintles). What about the stainless-steel tiller bracket?

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BTW - just weighed my rudder and got 71 lbs. The rudder had only the pintles attached. The tiller bracket was off. The bolt/axel for the tiller bracket was also removed.

Re: Rudder #3617
01/05/02 12:38 AM
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Yes Mike. Both tiller and it's SS bracket removed.

1000 lbs seems rather excessive... I wonder if it's possible for it to soak up that much water. Wonder if "ppasko" meant 100?


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Re: Rudder #3618
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It would be good to get data from one more original rudder. If anyone else has stored their rudder at home for the off-season, please weigh it and share your results...

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From a previous thread http://www.sailthebay.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000117.html the wieght seemed to be from 83-88 lbs.


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Re: Rudder #3620
01/07/02 08:15 PM
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I have a new rudder purchased from TPI last year and it weighs 86 lbs. with hardware (about 10 lbs. heavier that the original 1981 rudder). I think the newer ones have more solid material in the hardware attachment area which may account for the added weight.

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How Much does your Rudder Weigh? #8924
02/07/10 01:25 PM
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I thought this would be interesting for people to collect the data and see what we find. I used a very sophisticated method. I got out the bathroom scale and weighed myself, then held the old rudder that was damaged and repaired, recorded that weight and subtracted my weight. I then did the same with the new IdaSailor rudder I bought to replace the damaged rudder after my Block Island storm damage. Note the damaged rudder is usable since the repairs were done, just a little heavy. These weights are just the rudder, no mounting hardware.

73 Pounds - Original Repaired Rudder (horizontal in picture)
60 pounds - IdaSailor Rudder (upright in picture)

Post your rudder weights here if you have measured it. Class spec per para 5.6.1 is 60 pounds minimum. I doubt many people find a rudder below that weight...

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