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PHRF rating ?????? #430
09/09/08 04:41 PM
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Could you all give me a little feedback on your PHRF RATINGS? I have raced J-30's for the past 20 years. Our rating has always been 141 spin class and 147 cruising. PHRF NE wants to change my rating for 2009 to 138 spin and 147 cruising. I do not understand. I have the same equipment. all standard. anyone have a clue why after 20 years they think the boat got faster??????

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #431
09/09/08 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by melissa1759:
Could you all give me a little feedback on your PHRF RATINGS? I have raced J-30's for the past 20 years. Our rating has always been 141 spin class and 147 cruising. PHRF NE wants to change my rating for 2009 to 138 spin and 147 cruising. I do not understand. I have the same equipment. all standard. anyone have a clue why after 20 years they think the boat got faster??????


Well to be honest it should be 135 racing 144 crusing if you are OD. That is the PHRF NE base handicap with 163 #1 and J+1 pole.

What do you have that is not OD? 155 #1?

David
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Re: PHRF rating ?????? #432
09/09/08 05:01 PM
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GYA PHRF has the OD configured rating at 138.

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #433
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From what they told me it had something to do with the length of the spin pole. I am just curious. It really won't change my outcome in PHRF as most of the boats I sail against rate 95 or below. They still owe me a ton of time.

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #434
09/09/08 05:06 PM
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Portsmouth, RI
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PHRF-NB J/30 OD is 137 Spin / 154 cruising

Friends don't let friends race PHRF when one-design is possible. Bring Heat-'er-Up to from Hyannis to Narragansett Bay for the NAs and join 23 other J/30s at the starting line! You have 3 more days to register... we'd like to have to join us.

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Hey Bill,
I have been scrambling around trying to keep the $100 bills in my pocket. I will hopefully be racing to nantucket Sat. I got Zapped at the dock at HYC by one of the high speed ferrys going by. I guess those speed limit bouy's are for the sailors!!! Waiting for my fiberglass guy to fix us. We got a new used main this summer but we still have alot of work to do. I would love to come play but i don't think we can pull it off. I will definatly keep it in mind for 2009. Have access to a trailor so we can travel. If you hear of anyone short on crew I am available. I just don't do bow. Let me know if you would ever like to do the NA's in Nantucket Sound. HYC has put on olympic events and nationals if you are interested i can get you in touch with the right people. 3 Days?

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #436
09/09/08 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by melissa1759:
From what they told me it had something to do with the length of the spin pole. I am just curious. It really won't change my outcome in PHRF as most of the boats I sail against rate 95 or below. They still owe me a ton of time.


You should measure your pole. If it is 11.5 ft then they should add back the 3 seconds. If it is 12.5ft then that is the correct rating and they must have had it wrong for a long time.

David
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Re: PHRF rating ?????? #437
09/09/08 09:05 PM
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Portsmouth, RI
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... Let me know if you would ever like to do the NA's in Nantucket Sound. HYC has put on olympic events and nationals if you are interested i can get you in touch with the right people. 3 Days?


Sorry about the ferry damage. Saw your post in the 2009 NA thread. Nice venue for a future event!

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #438
09/10/08 03:45 PM
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Sophia and Wildcat rate 141 on Lake Erie PHRF with 163% #1 and J+1 pole. 3 years ago it was 138. Russ on WC appealed and got 3 sec relief. Don't recall rationale.

Re: PHRF rating ?????? #439
09/10/08 05:24 PM
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Lake Michigan PHRF has an OD J/30 at 138. That is with the class #1 and the class oversized pole.

What other groups of boats do you race against? S2 9.1? J/29? Comparing the rating difference would be more useful.


Dennis Bartley
Planxty, s/n 23994
hull 205
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