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Cabin Top Layout redesign
#4625
08/07/08 08:57 PM
08/07/08 08:57 PM
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Posts: 156 kailua, hawaii usa
mango madness
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My boat is already modified so much that future one design hopes are unlikely, so in keeping with my usual abnormal post topics I thought I'd present my planned cabin top reconfigure to the board for comments and advice. 1. I'm buying new deck organisers and adding a stronger clutch for the main halyard. 2. I removed my exterior handrails during the rebuild and have no intention of replacing them in the near future. 3. my buddy has a J29 parked next to mine and his deck layout is very similiar to the one I drew. The original deck layout has the line coming from the mast to the deck organisers and taking a more or less 40 degree turn then paralleling the seahood/ cabin lines to the clutchs and camcleats. It also has dedicated barient 10's that serve as halyard winches. The secondaries are close to the corner of the aft cabintop and can be used for halyards as well as secondaries. I want to; - Forego the remount of the 10's (might be for sale), - Remount the secondaries slightly more inboard on the cabin top. - Remount the clutchs fairleads and camcleats so that they are angled more toward the corner of the cabin top.\ This will serve a couple of purposes. 1. It allows the deck organisers to see a reduced sustained working load(sheaves. 2. Angles the clutches inline with the winch allowing the lines less friction when using the winch.( no angle from clutch exit to winch). 3. Lets me put less holes in the boat and reduces clutter and weight in that area. I asked the J29 owner if he preferred a set up like our original with the dedicated winches, over his and he said he'd never felt a need for them. He also races the hell out of that boat. Now, some fairleads are going to have camcleats/jammers farther forward due to the angle (i.e. foreguy) however, Would anyone consider this a doable set up if you could reconfig your boat? If pics don't load click hyperlinks. [img] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AaupVk266k0/SJuU8AWLLII/AAAAAAAAATc/6UDwx5CeiB8/s1600-h/deck+layout.bmp[/img] [img] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AaupVk266k0/SJuU8aAUjWI/AAAAAAAAATk/VwD6pu_b_MY/s1600-h/deck+layout2.bmp[/img] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AaupVk266k0/SJuU8aAUjWI/AAAAAAAAATk/VwD6pu_b_ MY/s1600-h/deck+layout2.bmp http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AaupVk266k0/SJuU8AWLLII/AAAAAAAAATc/6UDwx5CeiB8/s1600-h/deck+layout.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AaupVk266k0/SJuU8aAUjWI/AAAAAAAAATk/VwD6pu_b_MY/s1600-h/deck+layout2.bmp [This message has been edited by MangoMadnesss (edited 08-07-2008).] [This message has been edited by MangoMadnesss (edited 08-07-2008).]
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Re: Cabin Top Layout redesign
#4626
08/07/08 09:46 PM
08/07/08 09:46 PM
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Rhapsody #348
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... I removed my exterior handrails during the rebuild and have no intention of replacing them in the near future. [/B] The hand rails are a good safety item when you are traveling fore and aft with any sort of seas, rolling and pitching. I know the teak is a pain, but you could do stainless or plastic.
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Re: Cabin Top Layout redesign
#4627
08/09/08 10:14 AM
08/09/08 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Rhapsody #348: The hand rails are a good safety item when you are traveling fore and aft with any sort of seas, rolling and pitching. I know the teak is a pain, but you could do stainless or plastic. Agree removal is a bad idea.
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Re: Cabin Top Layout redesign
#4632
08/11/08 08:51 PM
08/11/08 08:51 PM
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mango madness
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I appreciate the insight, honestly, thats why I pose some ignorant sounding questions. I will probably remount handrails, the pro's out way the con's, although they won't be teak. I plan on upgrading the cam cleats to mini jammers.hyperlink http://mauriprosailing.com/Merchant...Product_Code=SP ISUA2&Category_Code= I also plan upgrading to jammer blocks for the chute sheets, hyperlink http://mauriprosailing.com/Merchant...roduct_Code=S PIBRS63&Category_Code= I race every thursday night, for the past year or so on a friends boat, with a similar set-up, and he never has to use his secondaries for anything but halyards and mainsheet (cabintop traveler). Does anyone else do this? (locking block to change sheets off primary) [This message has been edited by MangoMadnesss (edited 08-11-2008).]
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Re: Cabin Top Layout redesign
#4634
08/13/08 11:47 AM
08/13/08 11:47 AM
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dbows
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We use rachet blocks outboard of the secondaries that lead the sheet/guy to the secondaries - when it is blowing you can still easily hold the sheet so I think a good ratchet block is better than the locking type. I have the harken ones that are auto ratchet so when it is light they do not engage.
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