wondering what type of spin people prefer racing with. Is thier any advantage one or the other.

I have both. Our local PHRF does not penalize us for carrying multiple kites. We have a .6 oz all purpose, a .75 oz all purpose and an Ace. If you can only carry one, my recommendation is to get a .75oz all purpose. The Ace as a very limited range -but when in that range, it's worth it!

Blue, although PHRF does not penalize for multiple kites, they do take into consideration the format... you should check with FRICTIONLOSS about use of the ASO...he carries the penalty and uses it alot, especially distance races. Bear in mind that in the CARIB we are using the CSA rating, which takes the SIZE of the sail into account with the rating. Let me know what you are thinking...and talk to the measurers in Antigua. the redhead

would love to see a photo of A on a 30 to get a feeling for what it looks like ... see photo next column under bird to see a 105 vs j30 with wind on beam. Am thinking I would like to attach it higher than the fractional point on the 30

for Phrf we carry .75 and .5 if there is any hint of light wind ... under 10,

but for marcho days we have an old 1.5 oversize.

I think the J/30 would be awesome with a masthead asym and one of the new bolt on sprits.

I think that's called a J/97!

There is (was?) a boat in Annapolis, hull #9, Ginch that was once a J/30 and won the NA's in 1981 with designer Rod J himself at the helm. Owner discussed with me the whether adding a masthead sheave and possibly a jumper strut would render it ineligible to be raced as a J/30. Don't know if he ever tried it but he might be lurking somewhere. Hard to say how a measurer would've treated this, but owner had already modified the keel with extension shoe for depth/stability and if I recall correctly latter modified the stern and/or rudder.

I am not racing one design so anything goes. but i will pay for it on csa rating. does anyone else know of good mods that will help?

I think a self tacking ice chest would be helpful. Then you could really load up and it move to the weather side of the boat.

Amazing what you can do with an oversize spin... try a 40 luff with the pole just above the life lines. Old spins are great to play with.

so OK ... maybe a bit flaky and maybe not something to do over 15... But you ODers have to think "out of the box" sometime.

you don't have to just "race" to have fun. "Testing" can be an adventure.

v