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J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches #9239
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J/30 Class Rules paragraph 5.4.1.5 has an "Official Interpretation" annotation that states;

A list of approved replacement winches is available from the Class Measurer.

The list of approved replacement winches will be maintained on the One Design Class Rules forum and updated as necessary.

Table of Approved Winches for the J30 as of 22 August 2011

Winch Power Ratio Weight (lbs.)
Primaries - 2 speed    
Barient 25 (Original) 44:1 and 14:1 11.9
Lewmar 43) 43:1 and 15.6:1 12.5
Lewmar 44 44:8 and 13.9:1 12.6
Lewmar 44ST 44:8 and 13.9:1 12.6
Lewmar 44STOR 44:8 and 13.9:1 10.9
Lewmar 40ST 40:2 and 13.2:1 10.7
Harken 40 or 44ST 39.9:1 and 13.5:1 11.9
Harken 46 or 46ST 46:5 and 11.7:1 17.2
Harken 42.2 42:1 and 14.2:1 13.6
Harken 44.2ST 44:1 and 13.8:1  
   
Secondary - 2 speed    
Barient 21 (Original) 30:1 and 7.1 9.3
Lewmar 30 30:1 and 7:1 6.4
Harken 32.2 32:1 and 6.8:1 7.3
     
Halyard - 1 speed    
Barient 10 (Original) 7.6:1 3.7
Lewmar 8 7.9:1 3.09
Harken B8 7.5:1 2.31
     

The table is available to download and print via the attached Word document.

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Last edited by Rhapsody #348; 09/08/11 07:49 AM.

Charlie Stoddard
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The Lewmar 40ST has been added to the approved list for primary winches



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Re: Winches [Re: J/30] #12721
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I don't see a Lewmar 44ST winch listed on the manufacturer's website. Did you mean the Lewmar evo45ST?

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with all the new models that have been introduced I will update the list The evo 45 will probably fall in with it


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comparative data
Approved:
Lewmar 44ST 44:8 and 13.9:1 12.6
Lewmar 44STOR 44:8 and 13.9:1 10.9
New:
Lewmar 45ST Evo 44.8:1 and 13.9:1 7.2kg (Black/Grey Alloy)
Lewmar 45ST Evo 44.8:1 and 13.9:1 9.7kg (Chrome Bronze)

Re: Winches [Re: sonskyn] #12738
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the Lewmar 40ST would be a replacement for the secondary and not the primary winches, if considering Lewmar: the hole pattern for the Lewmar EVO 45ST does not match the Barient25; the "Fast Fit" idea was never implemented, no studs supplied. Winches are mounted in the conventional manner.

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Re: Winches [Re: sonskyn] #12741
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The 40's are not approved for use as a secondary they are two large Power ratio's are to high



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Re: Winches [Re: cstoddard] #13616
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No consideration on Andersons?

Binnacle.ca is having a smoking sale right now beinging the price down to the same as the aluminum Harkens and Lewmars

Re: Winches [Re: NaturalHigh] #13627
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I see no reason why we Anderson's can't be approved and added to the list as long as they are in the same power ratio area as the Lemars and Harkins

let me know which one you are looking at and I will review

I did put a new pair of the Harkin 40.25 Self tailers on this year and the crew love them tons of power


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Anderson 40ST is I think the most comparable. There is standard, standart self tailing, and full stainless self tailing.

Winch Model 40 ST
Drum "D" (mm) 75
Base "B" (mm) 152
Height "H" (mm) 174
Line entry "L" (mm) 71
Line size (mm) 8-14
Weight (kg) 4.9
Gear Ratio 1st speed 1.3:1
Gear Ratio 2nd speed 6.0:1
Power Ratio 1st speed 8.5:1
Power Ratio 2nd speed 39.5:1

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Why?

Re: Winches [Re: cstoddard] #17178
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Hi all,

I'd like to replace my primary winches. Anyone know if there is an updated list of approved winches? I'm considering the lewmar evo 40ST. The last list I've been able to find is from 2011.

Thanks,

Rob Bjornson
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Hi,

I will update the list of approved winches and post as soon as possible.

Larry Christy
Chief measurer

Re: J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches [Re: cstoddard] #17189
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An updated list of approved winches is attached. The goal is to keep the power ratio's and weight as close as possible to the original Barient winches. Both Lewmar and Harken have changed some of their model numbers but haven't made significant changes in the winches. Alloy, chrome, and stainless are permitted. There was a company in Australia making parts for the Barients. Will try to find a link and post it. Larry Christy Measurerer

Table of Approved Winches for the J30

March 21, 2017

 

 

Winch

Power Ratio

Weight (lbs.)

Primaries - 2 speed

 

 

   Barient 25 (Original)

44:1 and 14:1

11.9

   Lewmar 40 Evo

40.2:1 and 13.2:1

8.6

   Lewmar 45

44.8:1 and 13.9:1

10.8

   Harken 40

39.9:1 and 13.5:1

9.6

 

 

 

Secondary " 2 speed

 

 

   Barient 21 (Original)

30:1 and 7.1:1

9.3

   Lewmar 30

29.2 and 13.8:1

12.3

   Harken 35

36:1 and 13.5:1

7.3

 

 

 

Halyard " 1 speed

 

 

   Barient 10 (Original)

7.6:1

3.7

   Lewmar 8

7.9:1

3.09

   Harken B8 or B8

7.5:1

2.31

 

 

 

 

Either alloy, chrome or stainless are permitted

 

Approved by

Larry Christy

J 30 National Class Measurer

March 21, 2017


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Re: J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches [Re: cstoddard] #17191
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Hi Larry,

Thanks for updating the list.

The Australian company with Barient parts is hutton: http://huttonwinches.com. I was able to get a gear I needed for my barient from them.

Rob

Re: J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches [Re: cstoddard] #17335
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Martec Mark III folding prop
Martec has discontinued manufacture of the prop since April1, 2017. I contacted Gary Beck, owner, today to order a new prop. He will build me one with new and used parts but will soon not even have that option.

He also told me that most of the folding props now use a 1" shaft which my boat has but do not make props for 3/4" shafts.

We need to find a new prop for both 3/4" and 1" shafts!

Re: J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches [Re: LChristy] #17810
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Can anyone tell me what length bolts I need for the primary winches?

Thanks

Paul

Re: J/30 Class Approved Replacement Winches [Re: cstoddard] #17815
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Can a site admin please move the DOC to the INFO menu section for posterity?

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