Attached preliminary commo on NA delivery/return/cruise ... looking for additional input.

This is looking like a 10 day program figuring getting into MH on Wed and returning on Mon.
night running, if at all, in upper BB mostly under power depending on crew.
I would be ok going through at night depending on the weather with a straight shot to Marblehead.
Don't think cuttyhunk is far enough up BB for a stop.
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From: bill_kneller@hotmail.com
To: vic@vicfarmer.com
Subject: RE: J/30 North American Championship - Sign up now, pay later!
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:51:57 -0500

Vic - you read it correct. I'd be at Buzzards Bay end around 11am to catch the good push through the 21 miles in the canal. Figure with 3 kts current you make about 8 kts average.

Tuesday, August 3, 2010
Max Flood (3.63 knots) 12:14 am
Slack, Ebb Begins (-0.03 knots) 3:44 am
Max Ebb (-3.77 knots) 6:46 am
Slack, Flood Begins (0.17 knots) 9:39 am
Max Flood (3.58 knots) 12:38 pm
Slack, Ebb Begins (-0.12 knots) 4:06 pm
Max Ebb (-3.82 knots) 7:13 pm
Slack, Flood Begins (0.03 knots) 10:11 pm

Bill Kneller
Rhapsody J/30 #348
J/30 Class Association Co-President

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From: vic@vicfarmer.com
To: bill_kneller@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: J/30 North American Championship - Sign up now, pay later!
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:17:56 -0500

Am I reading it right that the window east at the canal is ~10/11 am/pm Aug. 3?

The last delivery I did through the canal was over 10 years ago was at night -- out of Boston around 10 am ending up at Dutch H around 4 am.

Ran out of fuel and had to sail up to the dock.

Hi potential cruise buddies,

I'm looking at our Rhapsody cruise plans for Marblehead this summer. Potential participants include J/30s Rhapsody, Falcon, Nemesis, Vee Jay, Wicked, Good News, Keltyk Knot and CHNYC boats Island Time, Hitutilu, Carolina Girl, Dream Boat, Agape, Sara Jane, others?

Here are the rough plans mapped around Cape Cod Canal tidal currents and some "fixed" parameters on places to stay. Roughly we plan on cruising ~ 50 miles per day with a 5 knot SOA for the pleasure cruise, and straight through for "gotta get there" mode. This means if you're not making 5 knots good with wind, run the iron genny.

Friday 30 July
9:30am Depart Newport to ?? (Cuttyhunk, Marthas Vineyard, places in Buzzards Bay TBD)
Lets figure out what places we want to see Fri through Tues am.

Tuesday 3 August
11:30am to 1:30pm - Be at Buzzards Bay end of Cape Cod Canal to maximize SOG with current (Max Flood 3.58 kts @ 12:38)
6:00pm - Arrive Scituate Yacht Club (Sunset 7:58pm) Dinner, showers, etc in Scituate

Weds. 4 August
Approximately 4 hour cruise from Scituate YC across Mass Bay to Marblehead. The J/30s will have moorings courtesy of Boston YC for the J/30 North American Championship. Others will need to coordinate with the harbormaster for moorings or reservations at the town dock.

Thurs 5 Aug - Sun 8 Aug
J/30 North American Championship (registration stuff on Thurs). Plenty of parties and events in Marblehead. Recreation event tickets will be available for the NAs for those who want to party with us. Pam & Larry Titus will have Dream Boat there as the official party platform.

Monday 9 August
Depart Marblehead - Rhapsody plans a straight through trip back to Newport, but others may want to stop at places along the way. In order to catch the favorable currents, depart Marblehead @5am Monday. Be at Mass Bay side of Cape Cod Canal 11:25am-1:25pm to maximize SOG with current (Max Ebb 4.5 kts @ 12:25pm)

Let's get some feedback on places to go, who's joining up and logistics for cars between Newport & Marblehead too. I've got tracks in my GPS from a 2007 cruise that we can share and modify as required.

Falcons leaving Barrington on Sunday and will probably end up either at 3rd beach or Cutty Sunday night so it will be no big deal to be at the Canal Tuesday morning @ 11:30 (were are you planning on spending Monday night ?) so we can run thru and end up in Scituate YC with you. If you're booking a spot add us to the list

On the return Falcons going to leave right after racing and will try and get thru the canal Sunday night

Two of my crew is cruising up with me. Pat is coming up either Wednesday night or Thursday to bring back Carol. Rest of Crew will arrive on Thursday probably late in the day I'm still putting together the return crew

Wicked hasn't figured it all out yet, but we're thinking the trip up for us will need to happen the weekend before - get to marblehead late sunday Aug 1.

Any advice on getting a mooring for the week? who should I contact?

For the return we're on the same plan as Falcon.

Dwight
Wicked #323

Dwight - I think you call the dockmaster at Boston YC 781-631-3100

I've been doing some searching online and am thinking maybe Martha's Vineyard is the best place along the way to stop so we can be there on Sunday 1 August. My daughter and her friend have flexibility to take a ferry back to the mainland late Sunday.

Here's the itinerary I'm thinking about - please provide feedback:
Friday 30 July
9:30am Depart Newport to Oak Bluffs Marthas Vineyard (slip with dock facilities and showers) - Stay through Monday Morning 2 August.

Monday 2 August
Depart Oak Bluffs and sail to Beverly Yacht Club or Barden's Boatyard in Marion, MA (on a mooring or potentially a slip - investigating available facilities)

Tuesday 3 August
Depart Marion mid morning. Target 11:30am to 1:30pm - Be at Buzzards Bay end of Cape Cod Canal to maximize SOG with current (Max Flood 3.58 kts @ 12:38)
6:00pm - Arrive Scituate Harbor Yacht Club (Sunset 7:58pm) Dinner, showers, etc in Scituate
Let me know if you plan on being in Scituate Tuesday night so I can coordinate with Scituate Harbor YC for moorings

Weds. 4 August
Approximately 4 hour cruise from Scituate Harbor YC across Mass Bay to Marblehead. The J/30s will have moorings courtesy of Boston YC for the J/30 North American Championship. Others will need to coordinate with the harbormaster for moorings or reservations at the town dock at Tucker's Wharf. Someone from the Rhapsody crew will drive Bill & Cindy's car to Marblehead.

Thurs 5 Aug - Sun 8 Aug
J/30 North American Championship (registration stuff on Thurs). Plenty of parties and events in Marblehead. Recreation event tickets will be available for the NAs for those who want to party with us. Pam & Larry Titus will have Dream Boat there at Tucker's Wharf as the official Rhapsody party platform. Rhapsody crew has reserved rooms at Boston YC. We have one parking spot for each room.

Monday 9 August
Depart Marblehead - Rhapsody plans a straight through trip back to Newport, but others may want to stop at places along the way. In order to catch the favorable currents, depart Marblehead @5am Monday. Be at Mass Bay side of Cape Cod Canal 11:25am-1:25pm to maximize SOG with current (Max Ebb 4.5 kts @ 12:25pm)

It's good to hear that a few J/30s will be stopping in Marion on the way up to Marblehead. I just wanted others to know that Marion still allows anchoring in an area just north of Ram Island. There is really no need to rent a mooring. The holding ground is just fine. We will be taking Arbella up to Scituate on Tuesday and on to Marblehead for the NAs, so we look forward to joining you. We'd appreciate being added to the mooring list for Scituate.
Thanks, Bill

I'm starting to think about the "by water" delivery option. Working backward from the ~11:30 arrival at the Cape Cod Canal-according to my mileage measurements, Cuttyhunk is not much further from from the canal than Vineyard Haven (about 27 miles instead of 24-and no worries about the currents through Woods Hole)-and if memory serves, is a very nice harbor (nicer than VH, but without the Black Dog). AND-Cuttyhunk is much closer to Newport. Of course, a stop in Marion might be fine instead. That would allow a Newport departure on Monday-which might make a long weekend delivery up from Jersey to Newport a reasonable prospect. The last time we went by water to Barrington, we went outside Long Island overnight to Block, and then did a foggy delivery across BI sound the next day.

I think the leg to the Vineyard adds substantial mileage without much benefit.

Thoughts?

Steve

Steve,

Vic Farmer is planning on departing Newport early in the am on Monday 2 August to meet up with the group in Marion. Newport to Marion is about 40 nm and pretty much along the way. There are more facilities available in Marion than Cuttyhunk, so that's why we've elected to stop there. (e.g. showers).

Our Vineyard leg is part of a planned family cruise, and it would be a little out of the way for you if you are trying to minimize time and distance.

Let me know if you want to join up with the group in Marion. Vic could probably find you a spot to meet you in Newport if you want to stop there along the way.

The below table has a route plan I did with Garmin Mapsource and an Excel spreadsheet. I assume a conservative 5 knot cruising speed, except where you really need to make a spot to catch favorable currents. I bump up the speed through the canal with current. The zip file attached has both files.

			5	<= Average SOA Outside of Canal
Begin	End	NM	SOA	Travel Time (Hrs:Mins)	Depart Time	ETA
CHNYC Direct to MV
Coasters Harbor	Breton Point	6.0	5	1:12	9:00 AM	10:12 AM	Fri 7/30	Open Water
Breton Point	Oak Bluffs MV	38.0	5	7:36	10:12 AM	5:48 PM	Fri 7/30	Oak Bluffs Marina - Slip & Showers
Oak Bluffs MV	Marion	19.2	5	3:50	10:00 AM	1:50 PM	Mon 8/2	Beverly YC Mooring & Showers
Marion	CCC Entrance	8.3	5	1:39	10:30 AM	12:09 PM	Tues 8/3	Entrance Buoy 18 & 19 by Mashnee
CCC Entrance	CCC Breakwater	8.7	8.5	1:01	12:09 PM	1:11 PM	Tues 8/3	Max Current at 12:38pm, Sunset 7:58pm
CCC Breakwater	Scituate	28.2	5	5:38	1:11 PM	6:49 PM	Tues 8/3	Slip & Showers @ Scituate Yacht Club
Scituate	Marblehead	20.8	5	4:09	9:00 AM	1:09 PM	Weds 8/4	Mooring at Boston YC
Return to Newport (Monday Morning Departure)
Marblehead	CCC Breakwater	47.5	6	7:55	5:30 AM	1:25 PM	Mon 8/9	Max Ebb @ 12:25pm, slack at 3:27pm
CCC Breakwater	Entrance Buoy 18	8.7	8	1:05	1:25 PM	2:30 PM		Be at Canal NLT 2:00pm
Entrance Buoy 18	Breton Point	38.3	5	7:39	2:30 PM	10:09 PM	Mon 8/9
Breton Point	CHNYC	6.0	5	1:12	10:09 PM	11:21 PM	Mon 8/9
Return to Newport (Sunday Evening Departure)
Marblehead	CCC Breakwater	47.5	6	7:55	5:30 PM	1:25 AM	Sun 8/8	Max Ebb @ 10:53pm, slack 3:04am
CCC Breakwater	Entrance Buoy 18	8.7	8	1:05	1:25 AM	2:30 AM		Be at Canal NLT 2:00am
Entrance Buoy 18	Breton Point	38.3	5	7:39	2:30 AM	10:09 AM	Mon 8/9
Breton Point	CHNYC	6.0	5	1:12	10:09 AM	11:21 AM	Mon 8/9