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#9743 - 06/30/10 04:31 PM Twing Settings
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Registered: 06/11/08
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Loc: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
I was just wondering were the racers set their twings
My Jworld instructions on the J24 had them inside the lifelines

Is our J30 the same?...inside or outside the lifelines
Last night in 12Kts true, we had them outside and the sheet / guy had lots of resistance along the life lines and stanchions

I would think they should be inside

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#9744 - 06/30/10 09:45 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Taras]
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dead down out
broad to beam reach in.

I think that is why we are supposed to use a snatch block on them. Just one more thing to remember to adjust at the wrong time.
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#9759 - 07/05/10 07:19 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Cap'n Vic]
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That is always the problem with a boat that is so wide it has seperate postal codes... on a dead down run you need them outside, but as soon as the pole goes forward you need them inside.

I always go outside because we usually have enough wind for near ddw. My crew also pointed out that pressure on the stanchions/lifelines is probably better than a bunch of pressure on the shrouds.

We tweak the guy and the sheet is free unless we are near out of control. We tweak both for heavy wind gybes.

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#9766 - 07/08/10 04:14 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: NaturalHigh]
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As many already know, I advocate leading your sheets inside the life lines and dispensing with the unnecessary complexity of twings.

Put another way, you only need twings if you:
1. Insist on running your spin sheets outside the lifelines,
2. Don’t like to use the foreguy and rely on them so the pole won’t sky, or
3. Think two twings are cheaper than one stanchion mounted snatch block.

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#9767 - 07/08/10 04:17 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Bob Rutsch]
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Bob - can you explain #3?
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#9768 - 07/08/10 04:27 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Rhapsody #348]
Bob Rutsch Offline
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From #3 above--The snatch block keeps the after guy off the shroud when tight reaching, so you only need one. They not cheap so you might be able to rig up a twing for less.

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#9769 - 07/08/10 04:31 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Bob Rutsch]
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Thanks - now I get it. I've got snatch blocks on the twings so could try running inside the life lines and clamp on the twings inside if needed. I may try that and see how it works.
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#9770 - 07/08/10 04:46 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Rhapsody #348]
Bob Rutsch Offline
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I dare say the only reason to twing the sheets down while sailing a broad reach or dead downwind is to control the kite in a stiff breeze. Even then, a little over-trim usually takes care of any death-roll.

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#9774 - 07/09/10 04:22 PM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Bob Rutsch]
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I thought that in light to moderate winds, the twings replaced the need for the downhaul to keep the pole from skying?

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#9783 - 07/10/10 03:36 AM Re: Twing Settings [Re: Taras]
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I wouldn't call it a direct replacement and it depends on how far forward your twings are. DDW it will help hold the pole down but a twing is going to help less and less as the pole moves forward. The downhaul is much more efficient at holding down the pole.

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