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Sold: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT

Posted By: boatboy1999

Sold: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 09/14/09 05:25 PM

1982 J/30 Hull ID TSP00385N82B Renegade located Southington, CT

This boat is for sale here in Ct. It can be seen anytime. The Yanmar 13 HP Diesel motor runs excellent and was test run and inspected by Sound Marine Diesel LLC. Hull is in very nice shape.The top sides look and feel solid. There is a small split in ceiling maybe 4 " long. No water appears there.The wood trim will need some restore. Wash & wax would make hull shine. Bottom has been always barrier coated and racing painted. Boot strip needs repaint.The botton has been faired around the thru hull fittings as former owner has all fitting smoothed out to match bottom. We have repaired a few spots that had chips, gouges and faired the fittings and some spots on the keel. There was a small repair done behuind the keel that was just faired and was solid. We will not paint the bottom as per advice here on this board that someone may want their own system installed and color. All racing hardware and rigging. Sails included.One sail looks to have water damage. Interior is original condition. Woodworking needs some varnish and clean up. Cushions and wood all original condition. The floors in cabin did have standing fresh water in boat for some time. When arrived here we drianed out and the floors stiull are solid. Some spots still wet because of plugged drains in hull. There might be few soft spots in wood but overall good condition.Custom instrument panel with guage package mounted on deck. Electronics were not tested. All hatches good. Owner wants to make sure this post outlines that this boat is NOT water ready and will need some work to get to that condition. Anyone interested in this boat please come and see it. This is a great boat that needs some work to get it back to its former racing condition or less to make it a great cruiser. Email me for many more pictures and direction. Boat is located at Affordable Marine & Sound Marine Diesel LLC, 86 East Main ST, Plainville CT. Can be seen anytime. Also we have the local hauler that moved boat here that can quote a price for hauling to your yard.

Finally we want to stress the following: This boat is in AS IS condition for sale. It is not in sailing or racing condition at this time. We have had a few issues with people looking at the boat and stating that we claimed the boat was in perfect race & water ready. These were from other ads we ran, NOT from anyone that replied from this website. I have described to the best I can. Please call me anytime with any questions you may have. 860-883-9742 Jim

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Asking: $12,500 Southington CT

Contact: Jim - boatboy1999@aol.com Tel. 860.883.9742

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Posted By: Bob Rutsch

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 09/28/09 03:46 PM

eBay: 1982 J Boats racer Sep 30, 2009

From photos and Q&A looks like a project. Beat sails including an old one from Smiles.
Posted By: Rhapsody #348

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 09/28/09 04:20 PM

Bob - It's this one that is for sale on the forum:
http://j30.us/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7846/1982_J_30_Hull_385_Southington.html#Post7846
Posted By: boatboy1999

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 10/05/09 04:27 PM

I am updating the information on this boat for sale. Many have written me and I have tried to detail all I know about the boat. Please come and see the boat if you are interested. I have had a few people show up here expection this boat to be put into water and sailed away. It needs work to be complete and water and or race ready. I am not representing this boat to be either. It is a great boat that needs work. The owner is open to offers.
Posted By: Bob Rutsch

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 10/06/09 04:56 PM

Open to offers? What was wrong with the winning bid $7,999.99 on eBay?
Posted By: boatboy1999

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 10/10/09 02:43 PM

Bob, the winning bidder was from Canada,very nice, but cost was to hight to transport and do repairs. (the were hiring out all work to be done at a full Marina in Canada)
Yes, the owner is open to offers. Not sure if going to relist on EBAY. I have many very interested people coming here to see the boat this weekend. As you can see in the pictures, the owner had the bottom finished, all gouges, chips and fairing done back to original. All fitting are now smooth for racing back to its form. We only applied 1 thin coat of bottom paint to cover for now. New buyer can sand easily and install their own system.

If you or anyone else is interested in looking at this boat, please do reply and I will email you more pictures. The boat is scheduled to be surveyed by 2 different potential buyers this weekend.
Posted By: Mike

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 10/18/09 12:43 PM

Boat Boy (or anybody else who knows)

The ad on eBay and here does not list inventory nor show mast or rigging.

Two years ago in November I purchased a J/27 from Mystic Conneticut and transported to Canada. It had some issues (wet deck) and required work. http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt
I did this because the broker detailed all of the known problems and I took them into consideration when making an offer.

What is inventory? Is it seriously just the two sails? That would deduct probably 10,000 from the boats value!

Is the rigging in sound condition?

Instruments - what are they and do they all work.

Repairs. Please list them

Cradle. There is no trailer. Is there a cradle? (another $1400 to have one built).

For others. Locally we have large one design J/29 fleet. Mostly fractional boats. Is the mast and all sail size the same? Will J/29 sails fit the J/30 with minor modifications?

Thanks

Mike
J27 #150
Nut Case
Posted By: Mike

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 10/21/09 04:52 PM

An update on this boat.

I contacted Jim who is selling this boat. He was as stated earlier in this thread very willing to share what information he has. he also sent me more pictures which included the mast (is nice to know there is one) and rigging. The mast at a glance looks OK. Jim will be forwarding Survey information shortly as well if the boat is still for sale.

On eBay the reserve was not met. There was also one bidder who had an automatic bid that was always $50 more than the highest. Seems kind of unfair in some ways - I am not a fan.

Closer looking at the pictures shows the level the interior water had risen to. the picture of the quarterberth and Nav station shows this - just below what appears to be a manual bilge pump. the water appears to have damaged the lower portion of the wood for the galley "walls" to some degree as well. if only two months then probably refinishing rather than replacement required.

There is no cradle, jackstands or trailer included with the boat.

The bottom appears to be in nice shape as does the keel.

re transport. Two years when I transported our J27 from Mystic, CT to Nova Scotia, CANADA the total cost including fuel, lodging, meals, marina travel lift charges and all border taxes was $2400. We brought down a 10x20 flatbed tandem axle trailer with cradle and drove it home ourselves. As Nova Scotia residents we were required to pay 13% of purchase price as taxes at the Canadian border. No duties as the boat is made in North America (thank you NAFTA). Estimates from a professional hauler were over $4000 not including taxes.

A quick chat with our local North Sails loft has confirmed that J29 dails can be easily modified to work with this boat. As we have a very competitive J29 OD fleet with mostly fractional J29 there are complete suits of sails < 5 years old available. Would get this boat started.

very interesting boat. If I were looking as hard as I was two years ago it would be at the top of my list. As it stands I am still somewhat interested ...

Mike
Posted By: boatboy1999

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 11/03/09 08:46 PM

Boat was surveyed by potential buyer last week. Found 2 spots of moisture on top deck near hatch. Owner has had it professional repair done, it was about 12x 12 repair of core. Survey found very little moisture in hull. Anyone interested I will provide you direct contact number of the surveyor to speak with. I will be relisting again on Ebay next week with full report or if anyone here is interested to see the boat and make an offer, we are available to show boat anytime this week. I ask any more questions if you need or just email me direct.
Posted By: rob mcarthur

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 11/24/09 11:29 AM

Boat is listed on Ebay auctions right now due to come off at midnight tonight
Posted By: Bob Rutsch

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 11/25/09 04:41 PM

$6,199.95 is a deal, hope you won it Rob and the boat will go to Cedar Point. Used rig, pole, rudder, winches and gear alone are worth that. The $1,800 you saved is probably enough for a set of pre-owned sails to get you to the starting line.
Posted By: Rhapsody #348

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 11/25/09 04:56 PM

I hear that there might be some Z Sails with number 30001 lying around. Know anyone who has access to those smile

NOT the one shown for sale with the boat....
Posted By: Rhapsody #348

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 11/29/09 12:48 PM

Boat sold 24 Nov 2009 on eBay for $6199.95
Trying to determine who the new owner is.
Posted By: boatboy1999

Re: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 12/02/09 02:05 PM

I would like to update the progress of the 1982 J30 #385 listed for sale here on this site. I have a contract with new owner (marine dealer here in CT) who bid on boat because he could not believe it was still available for sale at $6000. The dealer sent his surveyor here before auction closed and confirmed the condition report I provided. The dealer has contracted me to keep the boat at my location for the winter season. The dealer in turn will finish up a few repairs, secure boat for winter, and relist for sale himself. I will forward all my contacts from anyone who had interest in the #385 J30.
I must be honest about my experience selling this boat. I have heard comments from "the boat is junk, I'll pay you the scrap value of $2K...to "the boat needs at least $15K in repairs just to get in water"...to the "entire deck needs to be replaced at cost over $12K"...to "the boat just needs some love and it would make a great sailer"...and finaly to "I can't beleive it only sold for $6000....I would have made you much better offer!" There are many more statements I left out.

Some have been here to see boat in person, most have not. 3 different surveyors have reported the honest condition of this boat to be in good overall condition with mostly cosmedic work needed, along with the usual rigging and equipment repairs. I have spoke with at least 50 interested people about this boat, answering every question I could, along with providing the direct number of the survey company. The most serious have been from across the country, which the hauling cost has detered most. I am at a loss at this point in time. But I do understand one thing. Everyone has an opinion and I respect that 100%.

So in closing, for the record, this 1982 J30 #385 is for sale at Affordable Marine Boat Sales, 86 East Main St, Plainville CT 06062 and can be seen by apointment anytime in the future. The engine has been winterized and this week the boat will be cleaned, covered and relisted for sale.

Happy Holidays and good health to all!
Posted By: Rambunctious

Sold: 1982 J/30 - Hull # 385 - Southington CT - 12/03/09 05:00 AM

You may want to contact the dealer to see if he would like to post a classified ad here next spring. In keeping with forum rules, I'll lock this thread now that the boat is sold.

Congratulations on the sale.
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