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I agree, that Genoa performed well.

So what are you thoughts on the importance of a good main vs. genoa. Shouldn't both be considered equally important and tuned to work together?

The stain on the main from from Katrina flood waters when Zephyr went down. We were able to retrieve the main, but not the Genoa. I would hate to see what the Genoa looked like after Zephyr was raised from the lake.

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Absolutely true as to matched sails(and I meant no disrespect for the Katrina stain-it served as a constant reminder of the hell you guys have been through down there)-but that jib just looked so totally different from the 3DL sails at the regatta, and on the first day, you could almost see the deep rounded luff curve push you guys through the chop. Did it strike you guys that you launched out on port tack (into the chop) every time?

Obviously rig set up, steering, weight position, traveler position, and angle to the waves played a big role-but that jib just looked awesome, while your main didn't look all that different from mine (I know for a fact that Naptown adjusted their shapes closer to Benz's after the last NA's). The photos are very interesting to look at as far as Friday is concerned...

Hat's off to you guys on Zephyr-nice and fun to hang with off the water, incredible competitors on. And thanks for not hitting me this time around (but did you have to give me so much damn space?).

Remember, life is good on the "high side".

How many people "cross sheeted" on Friday?

Did everyone fly a #1?

I would like to hear from the Fuzzy Wuzzy team. Those guys/gals were on our tail.


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Team J.Doe flew the #1 for the first two races then we went to the #3. I think the less heel equalized the less sail area for us. We seemed to continue to hang with the back half of the fleet (-:, of which there were a few that were still flying the #1.

I think if it would have blown like that on Sunday not Friday the crew would have worked enough together by then to handle the boat a bit better with the #1.

Friday was a hell of a lot of fun sailing though!!! Perfect J/30 weather, well maybe without the rain.

dbows
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I talked to Bengt a bit Sunday night after all was said and done. He said that FW had their new #1 up for only the first leg of the first race on Friday, and suffered some delamination. After that they used their #3 on Friday and their old #1 thereafter.

A few comments from one of the cheap seats - 3 year old small loft sails.
In my opinion team Zephyr would have won regardless of the sails used - they sailed faster and smarter than the rest of us.
We had to use our #3 all day Friday after the two top seams failed in our new cross-cut #1 (replacement will be a panel tri-radial). We would have used the #1 in all but 3 legs Friday, it was painful when the wind dropped to about 14 knots.
I think Bebop was very fast upwind on Friday and Smiles/Big Kahuna had very good speed in the light/medium air Sunday. In the very light air on Saturday I think Fuzzy Wuzzy was as fast as any.
I would like to try cross sheeting, we always do it in the J/24. Any problems with the lazy sheet kinking in the turning block or the cabin top winches being too small?

Hey, for all us folks who haven't worked it out, how does team Zephyr rig for cross sheeting? I'd rather learn from the clever folks than re-invent the wheel myself.

- David

Dave can probably describe it better I'm sure...

It looks like they attach a D ring to the primary winch using a sail tie. To that ring they attach a turning block. Run the sheet through the turning block, then up to the secondary on the opposite side.

Dunno what they do for spinnaker winches when they get to the top mark... use the halyard winch temporarily?

NOAA data for W LIS 44040 not far from CPYC for Fri 9/15

Time, Dir, Spd kt, Gust, notes
10:19 090 15.6 19.4 First start 10:30
10:45 090 15.6 19.4
11:00 090 15.6 19.4
11:19 090 15.6 19.4
11:30 090 15.6 19.4 Est end first race
11:45 090 15.6 17.5
12:15 090 11.7 13.6 Est start 2nd Race
12:19 090 11.7 13.6
12:30 090 11.7 15.6
12:45 100 15.6 19.4
13:00 110 17.5 19.4
13:19 100 17.5 21.4 Est end 2nd race
13:30 100 15.6 19.4
13:45 100 17.5 19.4 Est start 3rd Race
14:00 100 15.6 19.4
14:19 100 15.6 19.4
14:45 100 15.6 19.4
15:00 100 13.6 17.5
15:19 090 13.6 15.6
15:45 090 13.6 15.6 Est end 3rd race

Estimating times after start of first race, but shows there was not quite enough breeze for #3. The gusts over 20 near the end of second race encouraged us to try the #3 for the third race. Immediately after start it was the wrong sail, but fine halfway up the leg. Ok for second beat, but changed downwind to the #1 for the last beat.

If I were superstitious, I'd swear that the breeze on Friday was custom tailored to make the J/30 fleet regret having dropped the #2 as an active racing sail. :-) Baring the boys from New Orleans, I think many of us would have loved a #2 for about 2/3 of the beats.

- David