Paul,

We race in the non-spinnaker class quite a bit. It's hard to put together any kind of experienced crew in the St. Louis area so more keelboats race non-spinnaker than spinnaker on Lake Carlyle.

It seems like we have to @#$^-up (please excuse the language) not to win when the wind is over 10 and in the 20-25 range with the #1 (you need to carry the #1 upwind in the 20+ winds so you have it off the wind). It's almost too easy. In the last race of our Commodore's Cup series the wind was 20-25 knots and we had a few really bad tacks and an awfull mark rounding but the boat was so fast that it just didn't matter. We won all three races, by the way, with winds bulding from 10-15 to 15-20 to 20-25 each race. We'd have won the series with a rating of 100 in place of our 139. We'd have placed second with a rating of 80.

We were good with my J24 against these guys but the J30 is much better.

Mark