J/30 Class Association Forums J/30 Forum The Boat, Sails and Equipment (2) Interior gear questions

Hi all-

Since air temp is 34deg, I'm focusing on some interior projects over the next couple months. ;-) So, does anyone have any insight/recommendations on the following:

1.) braces/support for salon table?
Someone prior to me created some funky wood-hinged supports for the drop leaves of the table. They don't work well, look bad, and need to go. I believe the original issue was a steel flip-up rod material supporting the drop leaves. Is this the case and any ideas where I could source these supports? Or, other ideas?

2.) Galley stoves for orig interior layout
The current stove is the original Seaward(?)and it needs to be replaced. I've read good things about the Origo non-pressurized stoves. While LP would be ideal, converting to that has a different level of scope. Safety #1 and usability #2 are my goals and I've heard that the Origos are really quite safe and by design, more contained that having to do everything required to run LP with all of the complexity required to do it right. Any comments incl. Origo model that fits? or experiences running LP would be fantastic.

Thanks!- Jeff
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Jeff - is your stove the model with the oven or just the cook top?

Sorry - should have specified - it's the cooktop. Thanks, Jeff

The leaf supports on Rauzer II are basically u-shaped rods with the tips bent at 90 degrees that fit into holes in the table tube legs.

RII has an Origo non-pressurized alcohol 2-burner stove that works well as long as you are sure to use the correct fuel. I picked up a gallon at a hardware store that made the pots very sooty on the bottom and the fumes stung your eyes. It took a while using the proper fuel before all of the bad stuff was burnt away. Refilling the burners is a bit of a hastle, but if you find a bottle with a closable nipple (lamp oil bottle or dish soap bottle), you can fill that, at the dock and refill the burner underway pretty easily. Slopping it in from a wide mouth container is messy. I have propane for the cabin heater and would prefer to have a propane stove, but the cost and hastle of running another line makes the current stove adequate.
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Jeff - if you want to stick with the "original" stuff, look at the Seaward website at this link and see if they have a suitable replacement. http://www.seawardproducts.com/ (look on left menu Gas Stoves)

I have a different solution on Rhapsody. We have one of the single burner omelet stoves you see in restaurants bolted to the underside of the wooden cutting board. This is flipped over when we want to use the stove. It uses disposable butane cartridges and doesn't have the hassle of the propane locker, plumbing and solenoid valve. Whenever we cruise I just pack a few butane canisters. They are light and easy to pack.

If you go the Origo route, the Model 4000 is supposed to be as close to a drop in replacement that you can find. The non-pressurized alcohol stoves are pretty good. I'd stay away from any of the pressurized alcohol units. I've used them on other boats and they are a pain in the neck.

Bill

I use the Origo Model 4000 after replacing the pressurized alcohol stove the previous owner had on the boat in 1994. To avoid blackened pots, insure you purchase cooking alcohol, not industrial alcohol ... something I did once, much to my dismay. I am very happy with the stove and do up to three week cruising trips with this arrangement.

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swego has a special on the cookmate replacement stove some modification will have to be made to the existing cutout as the cookmate is approx 1.5" smaller than the original kenyon stove in both directions http://www.swego.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=12&idproduct=5

First off - thanks everyone for the great responses and input. I can't say enough how fantastic this community is.

I think I'll go the Origo route. Doing the whole LP thing is sure a nice end result but effort vs. return seems too high (if I had the newer design with stove/oven range, probably a different story though). Great tips WRT to the type of alcohol to use.

I'll check out the Swego site and also check out the upcoming boatshow for specials... I'll do my best to try to document the changeover and post the steps back to the forum.

Thanks again all!
- Jeff
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