J/30 Class Association Forums J/30 Forum Racing Tools and Techniques PHRF rating ??????

What would the rating be with a 148% and J+ 1 pole? I had been rated at 135

Taras - in PHRF NE there is a 6 second penalty for sails between 160-170. So you would be 141.

However the boat was designed for a 163 so the sheeting angles etc are all setup for this size jib so it is going to be the fastest and point the best, so I am not sure why people think the 6 seconds is worth it. I measured it with my sailmaker and a 155 is nearly 11 inches in the foot smaller than a 163. My sailmaker thought that was just too much to give up since the boat was designed around the sail.

David
#397

Dave,

The story I heard about the sail is a bit different. When the Johnstones took the first J/30 down to SORC to sail IOR, they found that with J length pole/chute, the boat was slower downwind than they wanted. So they added 1 foot to the pole and could carry a bigger chute.

They could then use a bigger #1 without further penalty under the rule. This became the class #1.

Dunno how accurate that story is.

Could very well be true. I just assumed they set the boat up to be otpimized to the class sail.

Unfortunatly PHRF does not give us that same benefit. Would love to have another 6 seconds and still carry the big Jenny.

David
#397

Rod will be at the BBQ Saturday night at the NAs. We'll ask him!

Bummer I thought the Lobster boil and library visit was Saturday night?

My bad - Rod is at the BBQ on Friday night. You're right David. The Library tour and Elementary School concert is Saturday night.

Elementry School choir better have More Cow Bells!

David
#397

[This message has been edited by dbows (edited 09-17-2008).]

You guys are lucky!!!! On Lake Ontario PHRF the J rates 135 spin, and 153 white sails. We take a 3 second penalty for the 163% and the spin pole each. I have to give a masthead C&C 33 time, in light air that boat crushes me unless I find a breeze he missed. Not that I am complaining.....much! HA HA HA My friend Dan always says PHRF is not a perfect system but its the only system we got.

HHSA
Velocity Girl
#278

We give 9 seconds to the C&C 33's on Lake Erie PHRF. Long downwind legs in light air would certainly favor the C&C's but you should crush them to weather and on tighter reaches. Our A sail has helped. We don't consider the C&C's a threat. We appealed (and won) the 3 seconds on the pole since most one design boats such as the Hobie 33's aren't penalized for oversize poles.