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#4842 05/24/02 01:32 PM
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After 22 years of racing and cruising on Mondial, the handrail screws have begun to fail. Does anyone have a good method of doing this repair? A single screw is used to go from the external handrail, through the cabin roof and then secure the internal rail. Let me know if you have any good ideas.

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I removed the handrails and flipped them so the old exterior ones were down below and vice versa. I then fastened them with stainless steel T bolts. Get the bolt longer than you need and cut them down to size. Worked out really well. Good luck!

#4844 05/29/02 09:04 AM
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Got rid of the wood rails 6+ years ago but prior to that I off set the rails and used a "sex" bolt to secure the inside rails. The sex bolt was made by my local machine shop by drilling and tapping a 3/8" dia x 1" long s.s. bolt. The inside tap was I think a 1/4-20.I used a fender washer and boat life and have never looked back, no leaks drips or problems. I also soaked the 1/4-20 screw bearing point on the rail with epoxy so the wood wouldn't continue to soften as my crew hung on them.

#4845 05/29/02 10:17 AM
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I did away with the teak handrails on deck completely last year. I had a stainless set made that I ordered ordered thru Bosun Supplies. I think they were about $95 each. They look fantastic on deck - a more modern, racy look. They thrubolt to the old teak rails below that were still in good condition. The new stainless rails came with a larger diameter bolt than the wimpy 3/16" bolts that were original. I highly recommed this upgrade.

However, I still have all the old bolts. They're yours if you want them. Just let me know.

#4846 06/03/02 05:32 PM
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The teak handrails on Ricochet (#89) gave out about 6 years ago. We considered "flipping" the inside rails to the outside, but the interior hand rails were made from maple, not teak so dropped this idea. We found a local shop that made us new teak rails using the old rails as a pattern. We had them made a little beefier than the originals and used new 3/16 thru bolts as the originals after drilling the cabin top holes oversized, filling with West System, and re-drilling to size. Two coats of Cetol Marine anually has kept them looking as new as the day they were installed.

#4847 06/08/02 09:37 AM
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A few questions regarding the SS handrails mentioned by Brad Stokes. Are they a standard fabrication (i.e. can I just order them?). Are they class legal? Do the holes align with the existing holes? Is there a phone number for the supplier?


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#4848 06/10/02 10:16 AM
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Bosun Supplies number is (888) 433-3484. Talk to Chris, she helped me a bunch. Mention my name and she'll probably remember, because I had to send back two rails (they goofed on the bolt spacing). It was definately a custom fabrication. You need to measure your holes PRECISELY. Mine were 13 15/16" apart at centerline. The bolt length from the base of the handrail to the end of the threads was three inches, with 3/4" of thread. Because they used a larger diameter than 3/16 bolt, I had to enlarge the holes in the deck and in the belowdeck rails. Once I got the rails and made sure they were the right dimensions, they fit right into the old holes on the deck with only a minor amount of grunting and swearing.

The new rails are sturdy as the dickens and look fabulous, and no more varnishing! Good luck!

#4849 06/10/02 03:43 PM
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Are Stainless Steel handrails class legal? Also, what is the class ruling on spinnaker pole tracks down to the deck?


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#4850 06/11/02 01:17 PM
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There was a discussion on this some time ago. As I recall, the handrails were legal because they didn't alter the performance characteristics or reduce weight. However, I'm not the one to ask for a definitive answer.

#4851 06/11/02 05:52 PM
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The definitive answer is that stainless steel handrails are class legal.

There has been no official ruling on spinnaker pole tracks that go down to the deck. I am aware of some boats that have been that way for a long time... perhaps since the mast was made. I would strongly discourage anybody from adding this. I watched one boat in the NAs last year get speared by a pole that was sticking out.


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