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I have been reading about the decision against North Sails regarding 3DL-Sobstad patent infringements. I realize that many J/30 owners use 3DL for the class #1. I also realise that some owners may now be without the 3DL sails they ordered...
Here's the scoop - I have a BRAND NEW, North 3DL class genoa (mylar/pentax) that was used in two light air races (under 6 knots) at the 1999 Youngstown levels. I bought the sail from the North Sails Toronto loft after an individual in Buffalo refused to pay for the sail due to an extremely lengthy construction/delivery period. I do not race one-design and incur a PHRF penalty for using the sail.
I am interested in selling the sail since I will only use it for Youngstown and would rather use the proceeds from my 3DL sail for a panelled 155% genoa. I am asking US$2,250 dollars. Again, I will restate that the sail is in extreme pristine, factory fresh condition... my sail numbers have been on the sail less than 9 months.
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Interesting. Where have you been reading about North/Sobstad? I have a 3DL genoa and it has been a very good sail. North was trying to get people to try it at the time and discounted it to lower than a panelled sail.
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Check out the Sailing Source website at www.sailingsource.com and read the featured articles.
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I believe 3DL sails ordered before April 1 can still be built and delivered. I think North is seeking a restraining order on the injunction (hope I've got the terms correct) until appeals can be heard. Who knows how long that will take.
Dennis Bartley Planxty, s/n 23994 hull 205
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I think Dennis has it partly right. My understanding is that the sails already under construction may be completed, but no new sails can be started.
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It is also my understanding that North is not allowed to perform any repairs also. Is this correct or not.
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Just found my own answer on the Sailing World Web page the judges ruling has been overturned North continues to make 3DL The story goes on.
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My understanding is that the ruling stands, but that the injunction on production of current orders has been lifted pending any appeals. North still has lost its case.
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